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old fool needs advice on saw for joint cutting

chris watford

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Hello all, although a carpenter and joiner was in management for the last 30 years before retiring 10 years ago. I fancy doing some practice joint cutting but not sure my trust tenon and dovetails saws are worth getting sharpened, so I am looking at Japanese/Asian saws.
Suggestions please, and also for some bevelled edge chisels, I have stupidly sold some of mine (Marples, Beechwood 50 y.o +)

Cheers, Chris
 
My chisels and saws are mostly late 19th and early 20th century. It takes a while to find and fettle a good working set but we'll worth it.

If I were buying chisels new today I'd be getting Ashley isles. I might end up making most of my own saws.
 
What draws you to Japanese saws now?? Do you just want something new to try after years with Western tools?
 
Hello all, although a carpenter and joiner was in management for the last 30 years before retiring 10 years ago. I fancy doing some practice joint cutting but not sure my trust tenon and dovetails saws are worth getting sharpened, so I am looking at Japanese/Asian saws.
Suggestions please, and also for some bevelled edge chisels, I have stupidly sold some of mine (Marples, Beechwood 50 y.o +)

Cheers, Chris
Welcome back to woodworking!
For Japanese saws, a Ryoba saw is an excellent all-rounder to start with.
It's good for both rip and crosscuts.
If you find yourself enjoying it, you might then consider a Kataba for finer crosscuts or a Dozuki for dovetails.
As for chisels, Narex Richter or even the standard Narex line offer fantastic value for money and perform really well, especially for the price.
I think the they'd be a good bet to replace your old Marples without breaking the bank!
 
Welcome back to woodworking!
For Japanese saws, a Ryoba saw is an excellent all-rounder to start with.
It's good for both rip and crosscuts.
If you find yourself enjoying it, you might then consider a Kataba for finer crosscuts or a Dozuki for dovetails.
As for chisels, Narex Richter or even the standard Narex line offer fantastic value for money and perform really well, especially for the price.
I think the they'd be a good bet to replace your old Marples without breaking the bank!
Thank you very much indeed, I will commence research on the manufacturers items you have suggested.
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What draws you to Japanese saws now?? Do you just want something new to try after years with Western tools?
and why not, never too old to learn.
I like the idea of the replacement blades as getting fine toothed saws sharpened is a real pain. I never really mastered saw sharpening and trying again may be a waste of my time
 
Sharpening of western saws isn't rocket science. It does take decent eyesight and a reasonably steady hand. Saw files are available in a pretty wide range of sizes. For really small teeth I use a needle file.

One benefit to sharpening your own is that (in the USA at least) very high quality antique saws are common and cheap. I have a bunch of saws now that are better than anything available new except perhaps for ridiculously expensive boutique made saws. My typical purchase price is $5.

On the subject of boutique saws does anyone here know if any of the boutique saw makers are offering double tapered saws yet?
 
Sharpening of western saws isn't rocket science. It does take decent eyesight and a reasonably steady hand. Saw files are available in a pretty wide range of sizes. For really small teeth I use a needle file.

One benefit to sharpening your own is that (in the USA at least) very high quality antique saws are common and cheap. I have a bunch of saws now that are better than anything available new except perhaps for ridiculously expensive boutique made saws. My typical purchase price is $5.

On the subject of boutique saws does anyone here know if any of the boutique saw makers are offering double tapered saws yet?
I do know all about saw sharpening as I trained as a carpenter and joiner. I am 75 years old, I am not interested in purchasing antique saws, time is at a premium for me. So I will go with the information I originally requested, and will most probably purchase items as suggested by HandsOnNel
 
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